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▲Real-time CO2 monitoring without batteries or external powernews.kaist.ac.kr
59 points by gnabgib 14 hours ago | 11 comments
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Gravityloss 1 hours ago [-]
I was thinking would there be a passive chemical alternative, something that changed color according to CO2 level. Kind of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicarbonate_indicator
nikolayasdf123 9 hours ago [-]
anyone can explain why this is such a big breakthrough?

vibration powered electricity generator is not new, neither is CO2 monitoring. so what's the big deal?

dfex 9 hours ago [-]
More concerning - can anyone explain why there is such a variation in the results from the DC powered unit vs. the TENG-powered one? The graph at the bottom of the report shows a difference of 30-50ppm between both units when they are sitting side by side on the bench.
callmemclovin 2 hours ago [-]
That's in the normal range of accuracy of modern CO2 sensors, for example SCD40 from Sensirion is described with an accuracy of ±50.0 ppm ±5.0 %m.v.
zipping1549 7 hours ago [-]
I skimmed the original article and it only mentions the graph and says that it's "comparable to DC powered unit". I'm guessing < 100ppm difference is somewhat acceptable?
dfex 4 hours ago [-]
You might be right - it's just odd that it's always showing "more" rather than similar amounts.

Also, according to Claude[1] a 50ppm difference is equivalent to around 25 years current atmospheric carbon increase.

* Pre-industrial (1700s): ~280 ppm

* 1958 (when systematic measurements began): ~315 ppm

* 2000: ~370 ppm

* 2015: ~400 ppm (milestone crossed)

* Current: ~420-425 ppm

[1] "What is the normal range for background CO2 concentrations in the air?"

strogonoff 3 hours ago [-]
It’s crazy to think that many people alive today experienced a 30% increase in ambient atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration within their lifetimes.
devmor 52 minutes ago [-]
You’re missing some deeply important context there, which is that those measurements are for outdoor atmospheric CO2 only.

Average indoor air quality ranges from 400-1000 ppm CO2, with adverse mental effects starting to appear close to 2000 ppm.

In that context, you can see why a 50 ppm difference is marginal. This is why asking an LLM is not generally a great idea for understanding something - you need to follow it up with more research.

nashashmi 1 hours ago [-]
A low powered co2 monitor is likely a big deal. And one that fits to specific power generation systems is even a bigger deal.
ChemSpider 36 minutes ago [-]
The challenge with CO2 monitoring is the sensor, not the electronics. Sensor accurracy and service life are key information.

It is easy to create a low power chemical CO2 sensors with a service life of a few weeks/months. Obviously not pratical for real world applications. So critical data is missing in this press release.

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noisy_boy 10 hours ago [-]
Tangential/Spoiler: I came to know about Kaist (Korea Advanced Institute of Science & Technology) in the Netflix series Devil's Plan (season 2) which had two of its students as the top three contestants.